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 01-19-2005, 07:42 Post: 104485
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 Brake problems

I am going to tear into my braking system this afternoon on my Chevy Silverado. Its a 1999 and this winter it wont stop! I am driving my self nutz. I slid into a car last month at a stop sign. Get this, I was traveling about 7-8mph comeing down a very slight down hill grade. There was 2 cars at the stop sign ahead of me. One took off and the other behind that car did not move. I started to apply the brakes atleast 200' before her. Remember I am going 7-8mph already, it is snow covered and slippery so I was cautious to begin with ( And really folks! Where the heck do I have to go in a hurry anyway? I dont have a job!) Still locked out from Case Corp. {CNH}) Laughing out loud
Anyway my anti locks started to kick in. I was like," Whats this?" So like they say, I just stayed on the brakes since I had all kinds of room before her anyway and she will pull up (RIGHT?) My truck I swear was picking up speed for half the distance, all the time I am saying, " OK lady pull up! Pull up Lady!!!! Hey you dumb ass PULL UP!!!!!!! BANG! I could not believe it! Not only did I hit her (I was at about 3mph but as you know a truck moving at any speed and anouther vehical STOPPED makes a good hit) She pulled up (THEN!) got out and looked at the back of her car, right away she say's, "we are cool" I told her, " hey let me get your number and I will send you some money" She say's NO NO We are GOOD! (Her hubby is going to kill her) Maybe she did not have a license I dont know, there was no visual damage but snow was covering the whole back end so you know there will be something albeit maybe small)
Anyway I was physically shaking for about 5 min, afterwards (my right leg.) I could not believe the darn truck would not stop. I went and got 500 pounds of (Corn) Laughing out loud. No really water softner salt and put it in the back of the truck. That seemed to help a bit, but was too much weight for the truck to stop good so I went back down to 300#. Since then the truck is still acting the same way. Anti locks go on imediately after applying the brakes at any decent speed on snowy roads? Just this morning driving one of my daughters to school it happened again, no accident but I was freaking out! I am going to tear into the brakes ALL FOUR this morning. The back brakes are working (BY HAND I ONLY CHECKED IT THOUGH) I applied the brakes and tried turning the wheel by hand, they would not move) I checked that 2 weeks ago. Now I figure I need to rip them apart and figure out what is going on.
ANY sugestions? Anyone here aver have this kind of thing happen to them? About Oct. 1, I was hit in the front end by a 3 car accident, I was not moving, stopped at a light. Not much damage and no PI injury's to me anyways(one of the other cars was totalled though). I noticed my anit locks seemed to go on often after that (on bumps) so I took it in to be looked at (I figured the insurance would cover it? WRONG!) They are still fighting it and it dont look good for me, looks like I just ate that bill) Anyway the dealer said they changed a code in the computer to help with this, said it was ok'd by the company? This apparently did not help! You think this has anything to do with the truck going into anti so soon?
I hate my truck! I have been hit on all 4 sides in 2 years and never been moving while being hit except for when a guy blew a red light.
Maybe its time to retire this truck and use it for summer time run arounds? I am pretty pissed right now so any suggestions would be great
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 02-07-2005, 08:31 Post: 105627
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I am sorry I took so long to get back to you all. I see some really good advice and information Will try and cover all that has happened. When checking the back brakes last time I only pulled off one side and did not inspect thouroughly (My stupidity). The outside on the pass. side was decent at that time. Wrong!!! I just tore everything apart 3 weeks ago. (what an easy job!!) Love those 4wl disk. I think Av8R called alot of what was going on (he must have had one Laughing out loud) Back brakes were wore un evenly and corrosion and crud had built up on both the top and bottom of the uneven wear points. On one side I had only about 1/2"-5/8" of solid contact. The drivers side was a bit better but only on the outside. The rotors probably could of been turned. I know when I turned the front they only have enough for ONE turning on them since I did it myself and took the bare min. off and am at the low limits. Only took about .030 off (total of both sides). I made a executive decision! Re-place with new ones and clean up the old ones when I get back to work and sell on e-bay. This will eliminate any doubt I may have if further problems occur. TRY $92.75 a piece!!! Pads were a decent average price. What a easy job on those back brakes! So I was hoping I had the problem fixed. After further review NOT!! BUT with out a dought, the backs were helping next to nothing for stopping and the fronts were taking the load. This was part of the cause for early anti lock kicking in. I do believe I have a combination of problems and many of the posts here have hit a bit on the causes. The brakes definately are helpng now cause on dry pavement I dont feel like I am being thrown thru the front window anymore my just the fronts working properly. The anti's do not kick in as often or as soon as before but they still are not right. I think I mentioned in the first post that the dealer (on my complaints after the accident) said he changed a computer code or setting to try and help with this. Although you would think (if there really is such a thing!) it would be set harder to go off and not easier? I wonder if I should not go talk to the dealer, bring in the back rotors and show him them! Tell him to look up my last complaint about the brakes and what they DONE to fix them! Then politely ask him if after observing the rotors if he thinks I should of been told of this problem? Or if he even see's this as a problem? Then I would have him between a rock. I would think he would have to talk to his mechanics and ask why the hell they did not pull off the tires to check this basic function? I can't believe they did or they would of suggested this to be fixed also? What do you think? Then I would nicely say that my brakes are still acting up badly and would like them to switch back what ever they done to the factory settings? FOR FREE since apparently they never checked a basic component of the braking system. My conplaint read,
"Customer. say's anti-locks are activating early and often" Would you say that they should of atleast notified me? I think I also have the pads still, maybe I should bring them in also. Untill this time the dealer in question has been outstanding! In the service department. Even though I did not buy the truck from them they have been outstanding with my service and will more than likely buy from them if they can compete even remotely in price the next time.
Anyway you all had real great answers and many of you may of hit it on the edge of a few problems going on with it. Thanks alot guys. BTW. Just a bit of "411" When performing the removal of the calipers, there are 2 bolts that need to be removed on each caliper. That is it! Here is something that took me awhile to figure out. There is a rubber boot on this bolt. you need to slip a open end wrench in between the boot and the retainer. This bolt has a slip nut that it goes into and you really cant see it cause of the rubber boot. You will be turning that bolt for ever wondering why it dont come out all the way. One of them came out but that was because it was salted together. After looking at the book I found this out. After that (I shit you not) the other side took me all of 20 min. to remove the tire and all components, replace and put the tire back on 20 min. !!!! Awesome system the 4wl disks have on that chevy, now if I can just get them to work right.
So what do you think? Should I go talk to the dealer like I said, or do you think it is futile to try and get them to switch this back to a factory setting (If they really done this at all?)
Thanks again guys your all wonderful!






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